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	<title>Comments on: Elinchrom Ranger Quadra First Thoughts</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Lima</title>
		<link>http://www.simonkeitch.com/blog/2010/01/08/elinchrom-ranger-quadra-first-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Lima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Simon!Thanks for the reply!!Best wishes for your work!

Timothy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Simon!Thanks for the reply!!Best wishes for your work!</p>
<p>Timothy</p>
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		<title>By: skeitch</title>
		<link>http://www.simonkeitch.com/blog/2010/01/08/elinchrom-ranger-quadra-first-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator>skeitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Timothy,
You&#039;ll need a cable that has a 3.5mm jack on both ends; you can buy an audio cable with this configuration from any electronics store but make sure you get a mono cable as a stereo cable will not work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Timothy,<br />
You&#8217;ll need a cable that has a 3.5mm jack on both ends; you can buy an audio cable with this configuration from any electronics store but make sure you get a mono cable as a stereo cable will not work.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Lima</title>
		<link>http://www.simonkeitch.com/blog/2010/01/08/elinchrom-ranger-quadra-first-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Lima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Simon!Great review!Just ordered an Quadra!I am using also PWs which cables should i use to connect them to the quadra and where can i get them?

Thanks!

Timothy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Simon!Great review!Just ordered an Quadra!I am using also PWs which cables should i use to connect them to the quadra and where can i get them?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Timothy</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review, Simon, and very interesting. I also use the Ranger Quadra - mainly for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lumilon.com/blog/?p=2806&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;outdoor sports photography&lt;/a&gt; (review on my blog). As you say, nothing&#039;s perfect, but the Quadra is a great tool. Cheers, Luke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review, Simon, and very interesting. I also use the Ranger Quadra &#8211; mainly for <a href="http://www.lumilon.com/blog/?p=2806" rel="nofollow">outdoor sports photography</a> (review on my blog). As you say, nothing&#8217;s perfect, but the Quadra is a great tool. Cheers, Luke</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Keitch Photography Blog - Tools Of The Trade</title>
		<link>http://www.simonkeitch.com/blog/2010/01/08/elinchrom-ranger-quadra-first-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Keitch Photography Blog - Tools Of The Trade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] second bag is a LowePro Magnum AW shoulder bag which holds my Elinchrom Ranger Quadra kit: two heads, one pack/control panel and two batteries, plus cables etc. The Quadra kit came in a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] second bag is a LowePro Magnum AW shoulder bag which holds my Elinchrom Ranger Quadra kit: two heads, one pack/control panel and two batteries, plus cables etc. The Quadra kit came in a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: skeitch</title>
		<link>http://www.simonkeitch.com/blog/2010/01/08/elinchrom-ranger-quadra-first-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>skeitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,
I don&#039;t use any extension cables; just the standard 2.5m cables; when working outdoors I hang the pack off the light stand which adds a lot of stability and helps to prevent it being blown over in strong winds so even the 2.5m cable is generally longer than I need. You can buy 3.5m cables which don&#039;t suck any extra power but if you&#039;re plugging in an extension cable there certainly would be some power loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,<br />
I don&#8217;t use any extension cables; just the standard 2.5m cables; when working outdoors I hang the pack off the light stand which adds a lot of stability and helps to prevent it being blown over in strong winds so even the 2.5m cable is generally longer than I need. You can buy 3.5m cables which don&#8217;t suck any extra power but if you&#8217;re plugging in an extension cable there certainly would be some power loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.simonkeitch.com/blog/2010/01/08/elinchrom-ranger-quadra-first-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review, thank you Simon. I&#039;m currently looking at a similar set up but. Forgive me if I may have skipped over this in your extensive review but I have a question regarding extension cables. You can buy 2.5m length cables to extend the distance between the head and the pack, which I&#039;m thinking about getting but I was told that the output is reduced, or rather the power reaching the head is reduced, because of the extended cable length [presumably, although I&#039;m not sure about that]. I can&#039;t see any extension cables in the photographs but wondered wether you had gone for this option or not but if so, what is your experience of using the extension cables with regard to loss of power/output from the heads.

Thanks again,
Andy Smith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review, thank you Simon. I&#8217;m currently looking at a similar set up but. Forgive me if I may have skipped over this in your extensive review but I have a question regarding extension cables. You can buy 2.5m length cables to extend the distance between the head and the pack, which I&#8217;m thinking about getting but I was told that the output is reduced, or rather the power reaching the head is reduced, because of the extended cable length [presumably, although I'm not sure about that]. I can&#8217;t see any extension cables in the photographs but wondered wether you had gone for this option or not but if so, what is your experience of using the extension cables with regard to loss of power/output from the heads.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Andy Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: Deno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was thinking along the same lines regarding the control panel part Simon, unfortunately the price is a bit too steep for my wallet at the moment to consider a second pack.
Since I&#039;m just getting started I have a lot of experience to gain with just a single light anyway. 
The Quadra with a second head seems teh way to go so I can use the 2nd head indoors as a background light, and just use the single head for outdoor purposes.
Thanks for your insights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was thinking along the same lines regarding the control panel part Simon, unfortunately the price is a bit too steep for my wallet at the moment to consider a second pack.<br />
Since I&#8217;m just getting started I have a lot of experience to gain with just a single light anyway.<br />
The Quadra with a second head seems teh way to go so I can use the 2nd head indoors as a background light, and just use the single head for outdoor purposes.<br />
Thanks for your insights!</p>
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		<title>By: skeitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s good to know that the deep octa will work with an easy modification. I referred to the asymmetrical power output in my original post and it is limiting if using both heads although the RX Digital pack that you mentioned has a symmetrical dual output only which I would personally find to be far more limiting for various reasons. Running two heads from one pack isn&#039;t ideal anyway as it splits the power and prevents moving the second head too far due to the fact that it&#039;s anchored to the same point (and the cables aren&#039;t that long, plus I don&#039;t like having cables trailing around for obvious reasons). Most of the time I use a combination of one ranger pack/head, Nikon speedlights and occasionally a fill card but I&#039;ll probably pick up a second Quadra pack at some point (the kit comes with two batteries so it&#039;s just the upper control panel part that needs to be added for a dual pack and head system).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s good to know that the deep octa will work with an easy modification. I referred to the asymmetrical power output in my original post and it is limiting if using both heads although the RX Digital pack that you mentioned has a symmetrical dual output only which I would personally find to be far more limiting for various reasons. Running two heads from one pack isn&#8217;t ideal anyway as it splits the power and prevents moving the second head too far due to the fact that it&#8217;s anchored to the same point (and the cables aren&#8217;t that long, plus I don&#8217;t like having cables trailing around for obvious reasons). Most of the time I use a combination of one ranger pack/head, Nikon speedlights and occasionally a fill card but I&#8217;ll probably pick up a second Quadra pack at some point (the kit comes with two batteries so it&#8217;s just the upper control panel part that needs to be added for a dual pack and head system).</p>
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		<title>By: Deno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, thanks for your detailed reply.
The Dutch importer assures me the Deep Octa is compatible.
Also Ron Scheffler did a review using the Deep Octa, but remarked that the locking system needs adjusted washers to prevent creeping due to the weight. Easy fix luckily.

I was mainly concerned that the fixed ratio of the A en B head of the Quadras (as opposed to the relative freedom of the RX Digital series) would be really limiting the setups, as using distance to vary ratios would influence the quality of light (harsh vs soft). Have you had any issues with this or is it trivial?

I&#039;d much prefer the lighter Quadra set in order to be able to take it out whenever I want (without breaking my back on the weight), but since it will be my first lighting setup and I am on a budget (either Quadra set or 2x600RX Digital is the limit for now) I&#039;m trying to get the most versatile option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, thanks for your detailed reply.<br />
The Dutch importer assures me the Deep Octa is compatible.<br />
Also Ron Scheffler did a review using the Deep Octa, but remarked that the locking system needs adjusted washers to prevent creeping due to the weight. Easy fix luckily.</p>
<p>I was mainly concerned that the fixed ratio of the A en B head of the Quadras (as opposed to the relative freedom of the RX Digital series) would be really limiting the setups, as using distance to vary ratios would influence the quality of light (harsh vs soft). Have you had any issues with this or is it trivial?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d much prefer the lighter Quadra set in order to be able to take it out whenever I want (without breaking my back on the weight), but since it will be my first lighting setup and I am on a budget (either Quadra set or 2x600RX Digital is the limit for now) I&#8217;m trying to get the most versatile option.</p>
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